Aug. 17th, 2008

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Xxxx x xxxx
3:02
so you own or run a comic book shop?

Elana
3:03
I'm the manager, I don't own it.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:03
ok, still, it is an enviable job, amidst a world of very shit jobs

Elana
3:04
It has its shit moments, like any job. You follow me on Twitter, you know this.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:04
i do
but something i've found, since writing full time, is that even though a job may provide shit moments, the overall job can be fantastic

Elana
3:05
Yes indeed. My job isn't hard. I have a marvelous life.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:06
ditto on my end... i'm often under amazing pressure and stress, mentally exhausted, and physically aching, but i literally wouldn't swap it for anything else in the world at the moment, despite the shit income. I truly have a blessed job *side note* - I'm a Christian, so, you know, just wait for the first reference... should be any moment now

Elana
3:07
Ha ha ha, as long as you don't proselytize, we're cool.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:07
i've noticed that only non-Christians use that word
lol

Elana
3:07
It's just a word. A better question is why don't Christians use it?

Xxxx x xxxx
3:09
because, i think, for a large majority of us, we don't actually need to turn it into a scary "religious" type activity, but rather just an extension of our every day lives... ie, if someone asks us a question, we answer it. ie, we act differently, behave differently, appear different. it shouldn't be a case of "I WILL CONVERT YOU" but rather someone looking at us and saying, "Oh, uh... they're not so bad!"

Elana
3:10
That's not proselytizing at all.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:10
exactly

Elana
3:10
But proselytizing exists.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:10
yes - but you asked why we don't use the word
because you see, while there are those of us who attempt to live according to the theory i laid out above, the vocal minority look like a majority, and are the ones trying to hit you over the head with a bible
don't blame us for them, it's not like we're able to keep a control on them! the bloody morons!

Elana
3:12
Wow, you're very defensive about this! I know lots of Christians who are very chill about their religion. I certainly don't judge every individual Christian because of those nutcases. I was just saying, as long as you're not a nutcase, we're cool.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:13
hmmm... you are the very first person to ever call me defensive about this

Elana
3:13
I can understand why you would be, though, even if you're not.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:14
for me, it's a case of getting it out upfront, and ensuring that i am known to be NOT one of the nutcases... people are normally very appreciative of the spiel you just saw


Elana
3:15
Oh, ha ha ha, I guess I just assume on the side of "not crazy", and become wary of "protesting too much". I'm backwards, I'm in the northwest hemisphere you know! Ha ha ha

Xxxx x xxxx
3:15
*laughs*

Elana
3:16
Canada doesn't really have a lot of psychotic Christian god-pushers, that's really an American thing.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:16
it really is

Elana
3:17
So as long as you're cool with me being a flaming atheist/ethnic Jew, we're allll good.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:17
lol
i've known worse, and i find that, more often than not, if both sides are open to actually talking, if not listening, than life goes on ok

Elana
3:17
...See, your use of the word "worse" is alarming

Xxxx x xxxx
3:18
haha

Elana
3:18
No, seriously.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:18
why so?

Elana
3:18
Alright, we have a problem

Xxxx x xxxx
3:18
we do?

Elana
3:18
"Worse" = "bad"

Xxxx x xxxx
3:19
no, worse equals varying levels of [insert "it" here]

Elana
3:19
That's not what it means in English

Xxxx x xxxx
3:19
and to immediately assume that i am labelling you as "bad" because of your beliefs speaks to a much larger, not so much inferiority complex, but a paranoid state in which you have to defend yourself at every possible turn

Elana
3:20
Whoa.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:20
your not the only one who gets to be upfront

Elana
3:20
I'm sorry, I just thought I knew what "worse" means.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:20
in addition, you used the term "flaming athiest" which speaks to a self-deprecating person
in which case the use of worse would have been nothing more than a joke

Elana
3:21
God, I'm Canadian, of course I'm self-depracating!

Xxxx x xxxx
3:21
which once again leads us back to the paranoid state i mentioned

Elana
3:21
I don't follow.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:22
meh
either way, you can believe whatever you want, i have no issue with it

Elana
3:25
I'm posting this conversation into my LiveJournal to let others weigh in on it, because I'm curious.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:26
wow - way to go from nothing to a massive breach of privacy, but, if you insist

Elana
3:27
Nothing? Breach of privacy? I'm asking you first, and I own at least half of this conversation. Anything you write on the Internet, you should be prepared to have it become public.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:28
to the same extent that i should be prepared to end up transported out in to the middle of the street wearing only my towel, sure, but you have my name, and most likely a group of people who follow your livejournal who are already friendly with you and ready to take your side regardless.
so though i couldn't care a halfwit about the content of our conversation, i think you've just overreacted, but that's ok, my name being bandied about by your livejournal toadies is not something that i need

Elana
3:29
LiveJournal toadies? Wow, you win this round of the Rude-Off.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:29
meh - as we've already discussed, i'm an intellectual arrogant snob, i have nothing to lose by being totally up front with you, just as you did with your informing me of how you like to read IM's

Elana
3:30
So do you want me to remove your name from the log, or do you stand by everything you've said?

Xxxx x xxxx
3:30
if you have a problem, you deal with me about it, and not by opening it up to public dicemination

Elana
3:30
Well I just figure, if I overreacted, the only way for me to know the truth is to ask someone else.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:31
or to move on from a point of contention that, in all seriousness, has as much importance as ...

Elana
3:31
So what's the straight answer? Do you have a problem with me posting it? Do you want me to remove your name?

Xxxx x xxxx
3:32
do what you want with it, just take my name off it
and, by the way, i have absolutely no interest in hearing what anyone says either. this is nothing short of make believe, surely, and i still can't believe this point has been dragged on for as long as it has, as if i for one moment ever impuned your ability to believe whatever the hell you liked

Elana
3:33
Okay, I didn't really intend to pass that along anyway, since if you were interested you could easily look for yourself.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:34
i think i shall maintain my several year long streak of never visiting live journal since my 2005 involvement with the Harry Potter fandom
and i look forward to watching your attitude towards me go from snarky to obsequious as you get the answer you want

Elana
3:36
Look dude, relax. Of the two of us, I think you're the one sporting a lot more of an attitude.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:37
no, i'm just reminding you that while you might come off all brash and independent the moment an IM conversation starts, your not the only one that can give as good as they get

Elana
3:37
Very good, I'm glad to hear it.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:39
on that note, i am heading to bed

Elana
3:39
Good night.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:39
it was, despite all appearances to the contrary, been an absolute pleasure meeting you

Elana
3:39
How interesting. Thank you.

Xxxx x xxxx
3:39
have a good night

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